Welcome to Phone Calls With Clever People! I'm fortunate to know some very clever people. Now through the wonders of technology I'm sharing their cleverness with the rest of the world by broadcasting our telephone conversations on helpful leadership topics. Whether you’re an organisational leader, a business leader, a thought leader or aspiring to be any of those, this is a podcast that’s focussed on investing in you as you navigate that journey.  The premise of the show is simple. I want to ask great questions of talented people to help us all become more effective leaders. Want to get in touch to find out more about me? Visit www.shanemhatton.com or email me at contact@shanemhatton.com